BassIAB 2007.4 is here.... Rock On!

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Ok guys, here it is, Diggin' the Touch in all it's classic rock glory. I think it came out pretty good. I used instruments from different synths this time in order to get the best sounding track I could. Hope you all like it.

It's a six piece band. Drums, electric piano, two guits, organ and of course bass when you add your track. The song is a bit like a jam or an early rehearsal of a new tune. There's a solo in the third chorus. I also did a drum intro for a change. You can leave it as is or add some bass to the intro as you see fit. I don't know which way I'm going to do it yet.

Anyway, have fun with it.

BTW, here's the chord chart.

BoH's picture

Got it! Thanks Paul. Bo You

Got it! Thanks Paul.

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Paul Warren's picture

No probs Bo. Glad you're

No probs Bo. Glad you're able to join in this time.

I'm looking forward to this one myself. Rock is one of my weaker areas. This'll make me stretch out a bit more, maybe learn something.

wheat's picture

Thanks Paul! I can't wait

Thanks Paul! I can't wait to dive in. I'll go link this up to the front-page BassIAB announcement.

While I'm at it, I'll promote this to the front page.

I like the Stones-ish feel and that big beat at the beginning before the chords kick in. I'll dig out my Billy Wymann licks! :)

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

Glad you like it Wheat. The

Glad you like it Wheat. The style is called BritRok8 and it's loosely based on bands like the Stones. With the extra keyboards it's a bit like a Stones studio jam session where they'd bring in guys like Billy Preston.

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I believe I can work with

I believe I can work with this'n. Nice job Paul.

Hazz

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I'm out

There are a bunch of chords in this song. How the heck am I supposed to pick 16 notes a measure with my right hand and hold my finger on a string with my left hand at 120 bpm? I wear my bass almost to my kneecap. No fair :(

Hmmmmm, maybe it's a good thing that Bass Guitar magazine went down the tubes.

Don't know if I can play along guys. I just signed a contract two weeks ago to build a new house. Now my old house is going to take all my time trying to make it look semi-decent so some other fool....errr family can buy it.

Pete

Paul Warren's picture

Chords? There are chords in

Chords? There are chords in this song? I musta done sumpthin wrong. I didn't want none of them new-fangled chords in it.

;^}

wheat's picture

Oh, I see, Pete. I didn't

Oh, I see, Pete. I didn't know you were into that new fangled rock-n-roll. :)

Wheat

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aussiebassman's picture

Hey Paul,Great choice for a

Hey Paul,
Great choice for a track.
Is it possible for you to e-mail me the original midi files?

Many Thanks,

Geoff.
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Well......Ya know......?????

Paul Warren's picture

Sure Geoff. Do I have your

Sure Geoff. Do I have your e-mail address? Maybe pm me with it in case I can't find it. You'll need to be able to take a large attachment since the RealDrums track will be an mp3.

Paul Warren's picture

I can't find your e-mail

I can't find your e-mail Geoff. Can you pm me again. Thanks.

possible ??

hey paul is it possible to get the band in a box file for this ? .........
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Greg
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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*and it harm none,do what thou will*

Paul Warren's picture

Sure Greg. I just need your

Sure Greg. I just need your e-mail address. pm me and I'll send it to you.

Paul Warren's picture

I posted an invitation to

I posted an invitation to participate in BassIAB over at AB. Hopefully we'll have a few more participants this time around. Hope that's Ok Wheat.

wheat's picture

Totally okay. It's always

Totally okay. It's always good to try to draw new people to the site!

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

Maybe if enough people drop

Maybe if enough people drop in there'll be somebody who's a worse player than me. hahahahaha

Dave Magaro's picture

Can I post some big fake

Can I post some big fake boobs to weed out the sissy's.....LOL!

; )

Dave

Paul Warren's picture

That would be a violation of

That would be a violation of the FAQs.......

Oh wait, that's a different site. hahahahahaha

wheat's picture

Well, we do have a TOS, but

Well, we do have a TOS, but it's fairly liberal. :)

Wheat

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Dave Magaro's picture

hehehe... That's open to

hehehe... That's open to interpretation.

; )

Dave

I got here because of the

I got here because of the invitation :D I just downloaded the track and since I'm studying chordal theory, modes, etc, I'll try to apply what I've learned so far in this track!

Paul Warren's picture

Hi James. Glad you could

Hi James. Glad you could drop in.

I hope you enjoy composing a line to the track. Do you have the capability to record the result and share with us all? I hope so, I'd be really interested in what you come up with.

Anyway, welcome and I hope you can drop in now and again.

yes sure! I use Audacity to

yes sure! I use Audacity to record my stuff :)

Paul Warren's picture

That's great James. I use

That's great James. I use Audacity as well. I find it's a really good DAW. The price is right too. : )

Anyway, hope you enjoy the BassIAB feature. I'm looking forward to hearing your version. Don't forget, if you need space to host your mix e-mail it to me and I'll post it for you and send you a link.

wheat's picture

Lots of Audacity fans around

Lots of Audacity fans around here, in fact.

Wheat

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wheat's picture

Welcome to the site, James.

Welcome to the site, James. I look forward to hearing your track.

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

A question for you all.

A question for you all. Since there may be quite a few more BassIAB postings this time around do you think we should post our tracks in separate threads (ie: Hazz' track, Pauls track etc.) to keep the thread size under control? This might make feedback better for all of us as well.

Opinions?

Hazz's picture

We could have a dedicated,

We could have a dedicated, locked thread that has all the submissions in it and then have a separate "Discussion" thread. That way all the tunes can be easily found. Hows that sound? Fairis?

Hazz

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BoH's picture

Good Idea

I think a separate thread for each would be a good idea. It will ease the confusion a bit.

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Paul Warren's picture

Sounds perfect Hazz.

Sounds perfect Hazz.

wheat's picture

I'm down with a separate

I'm down with a separate thread for each submission. We should also link to those from the top post in this thread (as we've done in the past). We can also create another locked thread (like Hazz said) called "BassIAB 2007.4 Submissions" or similar and use it as an easy way to link to the various submission mp3s and their associated submission threads.

I think that would be a good idea going forward. And the month is almost over. I better get cranking. BassIAB 2007.5 will be here in no time!

Cheers,

Wheat

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Northernbuck's picture

Cool

This one I can do! Thanks Paul. It may take a while because of my hands but, one note at a time eh.

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So what do bass players that can't play do?

wheat's picture

That's the spirit, NB! Wheat

That's the spirit, NB!

Wheat

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Not sure if....

....I can record this track.I don't have the software mentioned earlier,I have a seperate digital recorder with a usb link.I can import WAV and AIFF files to my machine,but will this be any good.Can I convert the down loaded track to a WAV file?

Paul Warren's picture

There are many mp3 to wav

There are many mp3 to wav converters. If you google 'mp3 to wav' you'll get dozens of possibilities. Some will be free and some will be demos but I'm sure you can find one that'll work for you.

It would be great if you can join in the BassIAB feature. It's always interesting to hear how different people compose and play bass lines.

Paul Warren's picture

I almost forgot, you'll need

I almost forgot, you'll need to be able to convert the final mix back to mp3 format (for size reasons). So you want to try and get a converter that goes both ways. I think audiograbber might do both.

Hazz's picture

If you convert an MP3 to a

If you convert an MP3 to a wave it wont sound right and the timing will be way off. Converting from a lossless format such as a .wav format to a compressed format like an MP3 is fine but the other way around will/can really mess the tracks sound and timing up. You can end up with dead spots (no music) and such in the file.

What I would suggest is to play the song through your monitors (computer speaker or headphones) and use your digital recorder to record the bass. Then import the bass to the PC.

You could then use a program like Audacity (it's free) to mix the bass line with the bed track and then export it as an MP3.

If that does not sound feasible there are other ways as well so just ask if ya need to know.

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

I know mp3 is a lossy format

I know mp3 is a lossy format but I've never had problems as severe as you describe Hazz. In fact, when you burn an mp3 to an audio CD it goes via a wav file. I think it's Ok as long as the mp3 was compressed with a resonable compression ratio. In other words, the person who created it chose good or best quality rather than best compression.

Hazz's picture

I was just stating what

I was just stating what could happen. Depends on as you said, the compression ratio but also the program used to convert it and the system you use it on.

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Paul Warren's picture

Ah yes, I see what you mean.

Ah yes, I see what you mean. I think the settings I used would be pretty good for converting to a wav file. But as you say, it would also depend on the system and converter software.

Hazz's picture

What I forgot to post

What I forgot to post before, if you want to convert the files you can use dbPowerAmp. It is freeware and it is what most on-line collaborators use to convert their files.

Here is the link
dbPoweramp

I believe it comes with the codecs for converting to and from wav as well as a few other including MP3 but the MP3 codec is a limited time trial codec, I believe 30 days. After that if you want to continue converting MP3's you will need to purchase a license which is a one time fee. I believe any conversion programs require the license fee for MP3 because of copyright issues.

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Thanks

thanks for the responses guys I've got a few options to try .I have converted WAV to MP3 a few times before using dbpower and switch. I've not tried it the other way round before.I'll start messing with it tonight and see what happens.

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Sounds good Nick. I hope it

Sounds good Nick. I hope it works for you.

wheat's picture

If you want to upload that

If you want to upload that file as a .WAV for Nick, that would be alright with me. We could take it down after this round is over so it's not eating up space (and bandwidth). Just shoot him a link to the WAV via email.

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

That's an option Wheat. I'll

That's an option Wheat. I'll have to output a wav file since I exported direct to mp3 but that's not a problem. I'll try and remember tonight.

wheat's picture

Thanks, Paul. I didn't know

Thanks, Paul. I didn't know that Band-in-a-Box supports rendering straight to mp3. Ableton Live doesn't. I have to render down to WAV and then use the Lame encoder (can't remember the exact GUI I use. I link that up later, for anyone who cares).

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

BiaB is pretty versatile. It

BiaB is pretty versatile. It does export direct to mp3 but in this case I exported the individual instrument tracks as wav files and imported them into Audacity. This lets me choose different voices from different synths, something that can't be done on one pass. The guitars are generally better sounding from the Crystal SoundFusion wave table while other instruments sound better from the Roland VSC DXi synth.

After mixing in Audacity I rendered direct to mp3 using the LAME encoder from inside Audacity. This gives me the most flexibility for the project. Pretty amazing technology all in all. If only this was available 30 years ago. I might actually have been a good bassist by now. hahahaha

Hazz's picture

Hey Wheat, I thought Ableton

Hey Wheat, I thought Ableton did export to MP3 but you need to purchase the license. I will have to look through mine version and check it out.

Hazz

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wheat's picture

I'll look. There's plenty I

I'll look. There's plenty I don't know about Live. So far, I've been exporting as WAV and using LameDropXpd. I've also done some with Audacity's export, which also uses the LAME encoder.

Wheat

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wheat's picture

It should work. There may

It should work. There may be some loss in sound quality. And there may be some additional loss when you convert your finished work back to mp3 for uploading. But it's worth a shot. I also chimed in below to see if Paul can upload the WAV for you, if that makes it easier.

I've been very happy with the results of the tracks recording my own WAV against the backing track (mp3) and then rendering down to mp3. But I haven't tried scaling the mp3 up to a WAV first. But, you know, I'm pretty sure my DAW converts the mp3 into a WAV anyway when I import it--before it lets me add my own track--so it might make no difference at all.

Wheat

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Oh yeah!

I got it ! It's in me little machine.
Just went audio out of the pc into line in on the digi.( I think Hazz's suggestion)I reckon it would of worked the other way to ,if I knew what I had to do.
I'm sure I can convert back to mp3 and send that over when I'm finished. Not sure where I send it to? I'll get back to you chaps if I need more help(if thats ok).
Anyway got a few things to get sorted then I'm gonna' do some bass.
Thanks again for the help.I may be quite some time!

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Re: Oh yeah!

[quote=Nickostone]Not sure where I send it to?[/quote]

It can be stored anywhere you have access to on the net. Many ISPs give you some storage space with your account (for a personal web page). If you have this you could store it there and provide a link. If you don't have any personal space, or don't know how to access it, Wheat has kindly provided space on his server. In that case you can e-mail the finished mix to Wheat, Hazz or me and we'll upload it for you and send you a link to include in your thread.