Bass-in-a-Box (The BP Recording Project, Reloaded)

wheat's picture

I need to work up a press release (i.e. a news item for the site that we can link to) for the 2nd iteration of what we used to call the BP Recording Project. I may work up a flyer as well. Or I might just use a little HTML formatting and a graphic or two to set it up. Either way, I want the "rules" all in one place so people know what the score is.

I'll post it up here for comment, of course. It's fun to do all these things out in the open.

I'm leaning toward calling it "Bass-in-a-Box" and abbreviating it "BassIAB" in order to distinguish it from "Band-in-a-Box," which most people abbreviate BIAB. Here are the details thus far:

1) Paul will create and supply the BIAB backing track as an mp3 (I'll provide hosting)
2) The backing track goes live officially on April 1st (we might have it up a day or so before).
3) Anyone who wants to participate can download it, load it into the DAW of his/her choice, and compose a bass line to go along with it.
4) Participants then post to the BassIAB thread in the forum with a link to their creation (if you need hosting, email me your mp3 and I'll upload it to the site and shoot you a URL that you can use in your post).
5) Along with the link to the mp3, participants are encouraged to discuss their thought process, recording process, sound, technique, and anything else relevant to their performance on the track.
6) Everyone else jumps in with questions and commentary. Everyone keeps it civil and supportive.
7) We're much more interested in examining the creative process itself than in the track as an example of bass-playing artistry. Or, as Dave Letterman would say, "this is an exhibition, not a competition; please, no wagering."

If you have any other thoughts or concerns, iron 'em out in this thread.

Cheers,

Wheat

Paul Warren's picture

I would say you have it in a

I would say you have it in a nutshell Wheat. The only thing I'd add is we can discuss the genre or style ahead of time so I can come up with a track that everyone is happy with. I have a kind of dance track that might be good but I'm open to suggestions (or bribes). LOL

Hazz's picture

Sounds good. I had a few

Sounds good. I had a few ideas but I need to narrow them down before I toss 'em at ya.

Hazz

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BoH's picture

Let's get goin'

Let's get goin' boys!

*cracks knuckles*

Oh, wait. It's not time yet. Oh well, I'll do like George Bush and go pre-emptive. I think it's going to be a classic rock meets country/disco/hip-hop/kids bop combo.

As for the rules. I think they're fine.

BoH

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
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wheat's picture

I forgot to mention the

I forgot to mention the licensing. We'll go with one of the cc licenses. Still haven't made my mind up which one.

Wheat

bassplaying.com

Hazz's picture

BassIAB and the "Space"

concerning BassIAB and the MySpace account, do we want to toss up the first batch of tunes now or wait until the next set?
Also, shall we put, say, two of the project tunes up and two songs from some of the members or put all four project tunes up or any other combination?

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

First off, I've been a

First off, I've been a slacker and haven't checked out the MySpace page yet. I know, there's no excuse. I check it out today.

As for what songs to put up I can't see any harm if you want to put up the first set. But let's see what the others think too.

Got any ideas for the next one? Genre wise. I'd like it to be suitable for a powerful bassline, not too difficult in case there are new participants and funky (so I can use my new pedal). hahaha Just kidding about the last part.

Hazz's picture

I asked Bo and Wheat. Have

I asked Bo and Wheat. Have not heard back from Bo yet but Wheat said to toss it up out here for discusion.

I will get ya'll some ideas in a day or so.

Hazz

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wheat's picture

I say go for it. Put all

I say go for it. Put all the versions of "Casually Sophisticated" up there. Then, when BassIAB II is over, we'll put the mp3s from that up instead. MySpace only lets you do four at a time, though. So we'll have to rotate them (we can put them in order of submission, so as not to snub anyone).

I'd also like to archive all of the submissions to all of the BassIAB projects at Bassplaying.com, so they'll never go off line.

Wheat

bassplaying.com

wheat's picture

Maybe call them "Casually

Maybe call them "Casually Sophisticated (Hazz)," "Casually Sophisticated (Wheat)," etc. Just go by the BP username or their preferred name/nickname (using the BP name might make it simpler, especially if we get a lot of submissions. And I hope we do!).

I stoked to get going on this thing! Wanna start early?

Wheat

bassplaying.com

Hazz's picture

Long titles like that wont

Long titles like that wont show compleatly on the MySpace player. We could use the blog page to name the player and then on the player it could be something like BP Project 1, etc. and in the blog state that BP Project one - Bassist Bo H, etc. Something along those lines might be better.

Hazz

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Hazz's picture

The different versions are

The different versions are up at the "Space". Still need to put some info up for them but they are there now and will play randomly.
Also, do you want visitors to be able to comment on them or add them to their page?

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

I've got a good idea to run

I've got a good idea to run by you all. How about when I find a good song, regardless of genre, that I think would work for BASSiaB, that I put a short version on the net and link them all from my home page. Then just before each project we vote on which one we want. The ones that aren't chosen can be left for another time. This way we won't run out of material and I won't ever be under pressure to get one prepared. Sound like a plan?

I presently have a good Dance tune, a good hip hop kinda thang and a couple of potential fusion tunes (funk/rock and jazz/rock). If this works for you all I'll start putting them up ASAP.

Hazz's picture

On another site, a collab

On another site, a collab site, that we did a mix clinic on, we used that method to decide on the tune we would work with. We would need someone who would cast a deciding vote in the event of a tie but other then that it worked great.

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

We could flip a virtual

We could flip a virtual coin! I'm sure someone has written a java script for that. hahaha

wheat's picture

Drupal can do polls. I've

Drupal can do polls. I've just never turned it on. Maybe it's time to do that.

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

hahaha, here I am being

hahaha, here I am being flippant and the technology actually exists right in the site code. Well seems to me that's a good idea then.

wheat's picture

I like it. It's a great

I like it. It's a great idea.

Wheat

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Paul Warren's picture

Great. I'll start putting up

Great. I'll start putting up some short, low res, files ASAP so people can listen and decide whichto vote for.

Paul Warren's picture

Ok, I have a small dilemma.

Ok, I have a small dilemma. When I post the songs to choose for BASSiaB should I include the bass line. I don't want too because I don't want to influence the finished product but they don't sound good without bass.

I have a great funk tune that I hope gets picked but it sounds like crap without a groovy bass. So what do you all think?

Hazz's picture

I say no bass. It does not

I say no bass. It does not need to sound like a pro quality bed track.

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

What about leaving the bass

What about leaving the bass in but keeping it real short, say 20 seconds?

Hazz's picture

For me personally, I prefer

For me personally, I prefer no bass at all. It is no different then just about all the songs that get sent to me, no bass just because some players, especially new ones, will be tempted to copy the original line.

You could always post a full mix of the original when all the different versions are in.

I guess we could wait until Bo, Wheat or whom ever else want in on the next session could chime in with their thoughts.

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

I tend to agree. Having the

I tend to agree. Having the bass included may cause sub-conscious copying. But I'll wait and see if there are any dissenting opinions.

BoH's picture

No bass. I think we'd be

No bass. I think we'd be defeating the purpose of doing this.

I also suggested a latin beat. It would be interesting to see what we could come up with.

BoH

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
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wheat's picture

I say no to the bass, too.

I say no to the bass, too. Just give us the groove. We'll figure it out.

Wheat

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Hazz's picture

Actually Wheat, you mean

Actually Wheat, you mean give it to us without the groove and we will add it. ;^]

Hazz

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wheat's picture

Exactly! Wheat ---- needs a

Exactly!

Wheat
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needs a sig

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BoH's picture

Let's Do a Latin beat

Just a thought, but a latin beat would be a good challenge for us. Especially given Alex's input.

BoH

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Hazz's picture

Here is yer Latin beat

Here is yer Latin beat

As I replied before, it should be fun. Maybe a little Latin slap style as well.

Hazz

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BoH's picture

OUCH!!! Geez, do you have

OUCH!!! Geez, do you have to kick so hard???

He's kicking the wrong ball! Hahahahaha!

BoH

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
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Hazz's picture

And you can see the guy

And you can see the guy being kicked is trying to fly so he does not get hit so hard. ;^]

Hazz

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