Hello, I'm [your name here] and I'm a bass player...

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Here it is, on HAZ's recommendation, an introductions thread. A lot of you already know one another, so feel free to chime in. If you're new here and have been lurking, jump in and meet the folks here at bassplaying.com. We don't bite. Unless you're into that sort of thing. And then we always have a "safe word."

I'll start. My name is really James Martin but my friends call me "Wheat," which is short for "Wheabread," which is a silly nickname I got stuck with back when I played in a funk band called Punkinhead. I've played in a lot of bands, in a lot of different styles, since I first started playing bass back in 1984. I play Fender basses, Yorkville amps, and Hartke string (they must be made by D'Addario. They play just like 'em but are even cheaper). I'm in the middle of several bass-related projects:

  • jamesnotjim.com, site for my bass-centric music, recorded in my home studio. I want to finish enough tracks to do a short-run CD for sale at CDBaby or some place like that.
  • An expanded print edition of the bassbook which I hope to publish or self-publish and sell.
  • Running bassplaying.com, which was, at first, just going to be a support web site for the bassbook project.

The colophon of my homepage has some more biographical details, if you're interested. I look forward to meeting everyone here. So, if you're new, don't be shy. Jump in and comment on things. Let us know who you are, what you like, and how you'd like to see the site grow so it meets your needs.

Wheat

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Since I brought it up I

Since I brought it up I guess I shall post as well.

Hellow. My name is HAZ(Matt) and I am a bassaholic. I can admit that now.
Anyways, I have been playing for many , many moons (since '78). I have played WITH a lot of bands but have never played IN a band. There are a few reasons for it but I am not in a chatty mood so I shall refrain from listing them.

In the mid '90s I was offered a spot with a re-emerging glam band from the '80s who had just lost their bassist and were in the midst of recording a new album but again, I had to decline do to other commitments. Dang life throws some twisters at you. Oh well.

I have also never really took the time to learn theory until this past year and with all that has been happening it has been a pain in me arse but it is comming along. Kinda funny because I have written music, can read standard notation (thanks to playing the trumpet in Jr. High) but if you asked me what is the "A maj pentatonic scale" I would not have had a clue (up until this past year that is). So most theory questions I will leave to Wheat and the others who most definitly will have more knowlage about it than I.

Cheers
HAZ

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Okie Dokie!

My name is Bo, that's what friends call me, anyway. I have been playing bass now for about 24 years off and on. In the last six years, however, I have been faithfully grooving along and show no signs of stopping. It is my only "love", if you will.

My current gear list is long, so I'll refer you to my bio for that info. Anyway, it's good to be here and I want to thank all involved who put up this home away from home for all the low-enders.

Bo


Low B, or not low B? That is the question!

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

My Turn

My name is Pete Wallace. Actually Peter is my middle name; I don't use my first name except on legal documents. However, if you are familiar with the movie Braveheart and look at my last name, you can easily guess my first name.

I have been playing bass off and on since 1970. However, over the last few years I have worked on my playing harder than at any time in the past. This has resulted in my involvement with the Arts Team at my Church. So now I play 2 to 3 weekends a month which gives me the opportunity to play with some tremendous musicians. At this point in my life, playing bass is truly More Fun Then Ever!

I've been living in the Carolinas ( North & South) for 18 years but my hometown is in Pennsylvania. I have been married over 20 years and have a 15 year old son with a Driver's Permit.... time flies.

I have a degree in computer science but have spent the last 24 years working in Public Transit as a GM or as a Consultant. I've been in the GM mode now for over 9 years at the same location.

My gear is listed on my member page.

I have a feeling this site will evolve into a great resource for Bass Players and as a community.

Pete

More Fun Then Ever!

Pete,After all the time

Pete,

After all the time I've known you, this is the first time I've ever had a hint that your first name isn't Peter! Perhaps I just haven't been paying attention?

Anyway, enough about you. Let's talk about me. :)

All right, this will be the short version. If you want the long one, check out my homepage at Activebass.com. I started playing piano at age three, played various brass instruments in school. Bass player since the seventies in school, though I didn't play much of anything for a year or two after that. (Aside from my brief attempt at college.) I began playing again seriously in the eighties, after taking some time to play keyboards in a fusion band. Ever since then, I have been playing bass and singing harmonies in various dance bands. During the late eighties and early nineties, I did a lot of time playing as a sideman, and quite literally worked more than I really wanted to. The last steady gig I had lasted for about thirteen years or so, but has now ended due to new ownership of the club, and the decision not to continue live music.

I therefore now find myself at loose ends, though the band I've worked with for so long is gigging again this weekend at a different club. I'm going to try and get back into the sideman thing, but live music around here is suffering due to a lot of clubs going to karaoke and the like.

Oh, and another, fun thing. The band I've worked with for the last decade and a half has not had a "regular" guitar player for about the last five years. The typical setup is a three-plus-one, and so any guitar player that comes in has a major effect on the way the band sounds, and what tunes we do. It has therefore been a lot like working as a sideman, which is what I really like to do, and has kept things interesting.

Kelly

There is no substitute for proper technique!

There is no substitute for proper technique!

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So just take your bass with

So just take your bass with you to Karaoke night and play along. I knew a guitar player that used to do that all the time to practice and for fun.

HAZ

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First Name

My father was named William and he named his three sons with the first name William and we all used our middle names. I have now done the same thing with my son and one of my brothers named both of his sons the same way. Anyhow, there are now 7 of us with the same first and last name and we all use our middle names.

Weird But true :^)

Cool.

That's so cool!
I have to start doing that when I have kids.

Now me.

Hi, my name is Thor Iversen. Born (1979) and raised in northern Norway, and I have since lived all over the country. I haven't played bass seriously for as many years as some of you (most of those who replied to this post before me, have played almost as long as I've been alive), and sadly I find myself cutting back once again. While in the middle of my univeristy studies, I played a lot with different bands. Now that I'm about to finish school for good and start working as a marine engineer, I have to cut back on the playing.

Over the years I have owned a lot of different gear, and currently my main axe is a custom Listerud Totem 4-string. Since my band-days are over for now, I sold my huge Ashdown / Hughes & Kettner rig, and I'm currently looking for a small hi-fi sounding combo. Not only do I love playing the bass, but I also love all the gear related stuff that goes along with it. I catch GAS easily. :-)

My future bass-plans depend on my work situation, but I'm almost 100% sure I'm going to get a fretless and/or a 6-string in the not too distant future.

Thor

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Why no newbies ..

So why are not any of the new players/users posting? I see ya'll joining but no posts? No one here will bite, well Kelly might but he has his rabies shot.

Cheers
HAZ

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Just another Wannabe.....

Hello my fellow bass-cateers! My name is Don Armstrong and I live in the USA, Illinois actually but not very close to Chicago. I have been playing bass since 2001 but I am not currently in band. My day job is sitting at desk as a Project Engineer for the automotive industry. My wife and I love to travel and so we have been to several cities in the US and made a couple of trips to Europe. To give you a better idea, in the past year we have traveled to Daytona Beach, Chicago, St. Louis, Manhatten, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, Los Angeles, Nashville, Indianapolis, and Louisville in the USA and Cancun, Playa Del Carmen, and the Riviera Maya in Mexico. We have been to Europe twice in the past 3 years and my wife is planning a trip to Punta Cana in the Domincan Republic next month. I don't get to go this time but we are taking an Alaskan Cruise in August. Other than traveling and bass guitar, playing chess is a daily activity for me. It is hard to find folks to actually sit across the board from, so I play on the internet at US Chess Live (it's the US Chess Federation's official site). We have a 16 year old son who is a decent guitar player and can hold his own on bass as well. He plays and sings in the band "Bug Go Smash". I guess I could go on but I think you are getting the idea.

groove on

groove on

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Hey, Don

Man, I wish I got to travel as much as you do. Most of the US cities I've seen have been because I had a show there. That includes most of the midwest (Texas, Arkansas, Lousiana, Illinois, Misouri) and a little bit of the East Coast (NYC). Thanks to conferences, road tripping, and general wanderlust, I've also seen California, Pennsylvania, the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kansas, New Jersy, and a few others. Once, when I was about 20, I took a trip to Europe and saw London, Paris, a good bit of Italy, Germany, Norway, and Denmark. But, to be honest, it seems like a long time since I've been anywhere out of the ordinary. In fact, I haven't done much travelling in the last five years.

You'd probably dig 43places.com and world66.com. It's fun to map out where you've been, plan where you'd like to go next, and talk with other folks who like to travel. But I've never done a cruise and there are plenty of places I'd love to see some day.

We're glad you're here. What kind of bass do you play? What sort of music?

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What kind of bass do you play? What sort of music?

Thanks for the welcome Wheat! And also thanks for putting together this site. I think it is good to have a place where the site owner is still available.
As for gear and music style...I play a Fender Jazz, American made, that I bought used from a friend. Since I don't play regularly with anyone, I play a little bit of everything. My son plays a lot of punk rock so I try to keep up with him. We played together at a cookout last weekend with his acoustic. Campfire situation with a long extension cord. We cranked through a few Jack Johnson tunes and a few classics like "Brown Eyed Girl" and "Walk, Don't Run" and then vamped over some 12 bar blues. I have played a lot of country with friends, also. Basically I am still trying to learn how to play.

groove on

groove on

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I love Fender basses. I have

I love Fender basses. I have two, both Jazz Bass Specials (P+J basses with Precision bodies and Jazz necks), one fretted and one fretless. A rundown of my gear is here: http://jamesnotjim.com/gear/. I've played a lot of different styles in different bands, from metal and punk to funk and alt.country. A rundown of them is here.

My son is going to be 2 in January. I'm doing all I can to interest him in music, and he, like most children, seems to have a natural inclination toward it. I look forward to the day when we can really play together. We do now, of course, but it's fairly abstract noise rock at this point. We'll get around to harmony eventually. :)

Lately, I've really been getting into fingerpicking acoustic guitar stuff, mostly because I'm working on a track that requires it. Also because I love just sitting on my back porch in the evenings and strumming. And the fingerpicking bit adds another dimension to that (I've given up on picks since the boy arrived. I'm too paranoid that he'll swallow one).

Wheat

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I should add that,

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Lots of travel makes for

Lots of travel makes for good stories, good music and great memories.

to BP

HAZ

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Somebody asked about newbies....

....and I'm fresh meat.
My name's Samantha and I was born, raised, and still live in a bit of New York called Astoria.
I'm self-taught. I've always loved music and have had a fondness for bass for quite some time; I've always picked out the lines when I've listened to records. Anyway, at 17 I had an epiphany sort moment, sitting around listening to London Calling for the first time all the way through, in awe of Paul Simonon, and thought "Hey, I ought to do something about this". My dad bought me a cheapy Hondo as a gift that I played for a few months before I realized the thing sounded like junk (without telling my dad of course). I decided I needed to upgrade.
Cut to me working in an office after-school from September through February, when I finally saved up enough cash and bought a shiny, Midnight Wine, Fender Precision Bass.

I'm self-taught. I've never been in a band (my friends don't play anything, and aren't really interesting in starting a band up). I've never played any gigs.
I teach myself by playing along with records of all kinds (I listen to a little bit of everything), and using Bass Guitar for Dummies because it's so handy and great.

Oh and I'm still stuck in that office. Saving up for a new amp...and college :D

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Welcome aboard

Hey, Samantha. We're glad you're here. And I wish you well with your bass playing and with college (any idea what you'll major in?). I'm glad The Clash inspired you to play bass. For me it was The Police along with Black Sabbath and the Sex Pistols! It's also cool that you're using Patrick's book. Have you read our interview with him yet? Great guy. What kind of amp are you looking for?

Thanks for jumping in and saying hello (see how easy that was, lurkers!).

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hey thanks. it's cool to be

hey thanks. it's cool to be here, the site looks great. i've been thinking about majoring in either something to do with writing, or a foreign language, but i'm indecisive so i'll know better in a year or so, heh. i just read the interview and it was really great! i just bookmarked your online bass book too, because it seems really handy as well.
i'm not sure what i want specifically, but i was thinking of looking into an Ampeg because i've heard they're pretty reliable with Fenders.

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P-Bass + Ampeg = Good times

P=Bass + Ampeg is a truly classic rock sound. Very heavy, but very warm. Not a bad way to go at all. Try some out and make sure you dig it. I'm more into the squeaky clean solid state vibe, but those fuzzy tubes have their own sweet mojo.

I majored in English as an undergrad and enjoyed it. It's also a good combo with other majors (especially a foreign language). I'm glad you dig the bassbook. I'm working on a print version of it--something a lot more thorough and with a lot more examples. Look for that by the end of the year or early next--no worries about missing it, I'll be spamming the site with ads for it. :)

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Well at least something

Well at least something about you is squeaky-clean. By the way, have you had yer yearly bath yet?

HAZ

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From personal expiereance

From personal experience and watching friends, most people go into collage for a certain major and then end up studying something way different so you have a bit of time to figure that part out.

As far as an amp, I find that just about all the major and smaller (or less known) manufactures make decent gear and crap gear. It will come down to the sound you want from it, what you have to spend on it and how much room you have where you will be playing. Personally I would recommend anything from Trace Elliot but Ampeg does make some kick arse gear as well. When the time comes and you narrow your search down to a few amps feel free to ask about them. With the players on this site, although still a bit small in number, there are years of experience. Another thing to consider is buying used gear. There is a lot of good used equipment out there for a fraction of what the new stuff cost.


to BP as well.

HAZ

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Ahem...

Hiya, guys, name's Brandon, I live 'round the Houston area, soon to be Huntsville (college), I've been playing bass a little less than 8 years, and I gotta tell you, at every chatroom or forum or anywhere really that puts me in a position to talk to other bassists that I say that, I feel like a newborn. But, my personal philosophy is "You gotta start somewhere." so it's all good.

I play an Ibby sixer and a Jay Turser J-Bass, by the way.

Music is life.

Gear:
Ibanez SR506 sixer
Jay Turser J-Bass 4
Peavey Combo 300
Behringer V-tone 212 (Bi-amped w/Peavey)

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A sixer huh?? Gues that

A sixer huh?? Gues that inner guitarist is starting to show. Just Kidding.

Ahh do not worry about feeling like a newb, even though some of us have been playing for many, many moons we still feel like newbies but that means you will always be learning which is a good thing. Once you feel you know every thing then what else is there to do?

Oh yeah, good luck with the collage thing. I did it, hated it (except for the sports and parties) but it can be a good thing. What are you going to study?

HAZ

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College Studies

The great thing about being a n00b in the company of guys with so much more experience than me is that now I have brains to pick. I am not a mouse before men, but a student before teachers.

As for my college studies, you're talking to a music major. I'm looking to teach myself someday.

Music is life.

Gear:
Ibanez SR506 sixer
Jay Turser J-Bass 4
Peavey Combo 300
Behringer V-tone 212 (Bi-amped w/Peavey)

Music is life.

Gear:
Ibanez SR506 sixer
Jay Turser J-Bass 4
Peavey Combo 300
Behringer V-tone 212 (Bi-amped w/Peavey)

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Welcome!

Welcome Brandon! We're always glad to have some new blood around here. And eight years is nothing to sneeze at! So many new folks here are afraid to jump in on the boards. I'm glad you took the initiative.

Wheat

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Just dropped in

Hi, I'm Paul and I'm a refuge from Active Bass (sounds like some kind of 12 step program). AB is down so I thought I'd drop in. You can find all my details on my AB home page when it's up and running.

Thanks for putting this site up Wheat, it looks good.

Paul

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Welcome...

Welcome, Paul. Glad you made it by. Thanks for signing up. And thanks for the comments on the site. I'm still lining a few things out, but it's going well so far.

Wheat

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Hi, my name is Bill and I hack at the bass some....

I'm a reformed guitar player (actually, I still pick it up on a regular basis and I'm much better on the guitar than the bass), who plays bass when playing with others. I'm still primarily a root-thumper, throwing the occasional 3rds & 5ths, and taking a walk now and again. It's a blast.

Bill

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Hi Bill

Hi Bill,

Thanks for crossing over to the dark side! Bass is more fun.

Wheat

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Learner

Hi, my name is Andrew, I'm an 18 y/o high-school student, and have recently decided to pick up a Bass and learn to play.

My father has played Bass since the late 70's, and is now my tutor. I took up his Samick Silvertone now that he has an Alembic. (Which by the way, he is very, Very proud of. Which he should be)

Anyways I'm looking for people and material to help make my learning bass easy and fun. See you around.

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Welcome, man. We're all

Welcome, man. We're all more than happy to help you out on your quest for bassness! Thanks for introducing yourself. There are some cool cats here. And we're all into learning as much as we can about the bass--those just starting out and those that have been playing for (gulp) decades. :)

Wheat

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Hey, man. I read your

Hey, man. I read your profile and you and I play the same amp: Yorkville 400B. Sweet! It's a workhorse. I've had mine since 1994, I think. It's been a great amp.

Wheat

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Welcom to BP and welcome to

Welcom to BP and welcome to the Brethren of Bottom Dwellers, The Gangstas of Groove, the Lovers of the Fat Bottom (musically speaking since this is a music site)

HAZ

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Good One

'Lovers of the Fat Bottom', I'll remember that. LOL

more newbies..

THANKS for the welcome.. Hello everyone, I am wahs from Philippines, 28 years old. I work as an instructor in the electrical engineering department in one of the universities here in philippines. In my spare time I play bass… I love bass... I have been playing bass guitar for 9 years now, but i'm still a NEWBIE. I was already 18 when i learned to play guitar, picked up a bass a year after, and played and loved bass since then.. but I still suck.. never had guitar lessons, self-taught, learned from friends and the internet, very limited knowledge on music theory.. i listen to any band that plays good tunes and with great bass lines.. i play a short scale yamaha bass guitar, don't even know the model name coz’ it was given to me by a friend. it isn’t a good bass, but heck, its free, so im good with it. amps? a very small 10 W yamaha amps, also given to me by a friend. so again, im ok with it.. am thinking of buying a much better bass and amps, but haven’t decided what to buy yet. am still saving.. I don’t play in any band right now.. haven’t played in any gigs for years now.. This looks like a great site, I’m really hoping to learn a lot from you guys...

wahs

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Welcome, wahs! We don't

Welcome, wahs! We don't mind newbies here--even newbies who've been playing for a while. I'm glad you've joined us. I think you'll meet a lot of nice folks here who are more than willing to help answer your questions and point you in some good directions.

Since you already have a Yamaha, you might consider sticking with them. They make some fine basses. It's great that you've managed to score a good beginner setup for free! But when you're ready to move up, there will be lots of options, both for basses and for amps. I'm a Fender guy myself, but we have Yamaha fans here as well (and fans of lots of other brands).

Cheers,

Wheat

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9 years and stil a newb?

9 years and stil a newb? Thats cool, a few of us have a lot more years then you but are also newbs. Although we, including your self, would be considered in my book as "advanced beginners"

Welcome to AB and no matter how stupid or dumb you may think a question is feel free to ask.

HAZ

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Hiya. I joined a couple of

Hiya. I joined a couple of weeks ago, but have been really busy and haven't had a chance to properly introduce myself.

My name is Jess, I'm 22 and I'm an absolute baby when it comes to playing any kind of instrument. I've never ever played an instrument, and my music theory knowledge is pretty lame but late last year, I decided that it was time to be a rockstar, so I bought a pair of drumsticks and a practise pad and started teaching myself how to play to a beat. Nine months later, I was given a cheap no-name-brand bass guitar and amp as a present (It may be cheap, but it's so damn pretty! Imagine a blood red to black sunburst. I adore it so much) and I've now been playing bass guitar for a little over 3 months. I practise for a couple of hours every day (when I say practise, I mean that I muck around playing bits of songs and doing finger exercises and walking bass lines... does that count?) and I'm still keeping up with my drumming skills.

Primarily I'm learning from Patrick Pfeiffer's book 'Bass Guitar for Dummies', as it's an EXCELLENT resourse. I'm slowly working my way through the entire book (btw, how much FUN is the walking bass line on page 185?) and trying to memorise everything that I've learnt, but theory gets to everyone eventually, so I teach myself some of the easier basslines of my favourite punk/rock songs so my attention doesn't wane. My favourite songs to play are by My Chemical Romance and Green Day because of their fast paced energy and because of how they make me feel when I'm playing along, but I also play songs by The Cure, Gnarls Barkley, Alkaline Trio, Eskimo Joe and 30 Seconds To Mars. I'm really proud of myself because I usually get bored with something new after a week and tend to move on quickly, but with bass playing, I'm even MORE excited than when I started. I even have an itunes playlist called 'songs I can play on bass' which has and 22 songs (1hr 14min) that I can put on random and jam along with. I think that makes me more excited than anything. :)

I mentioned some of my favourite bands before - My Chemical Romance (possibly not for their basslines, but for their extraordinary guitar soloing) and Green Day, but I listen to anything that has a good beat and a good vibe. I generally don't listen to Rap because I don't understand it. I was brought up on 50s and 60s rock n roll and then through my teenage years I listened to Metallica, Bon Jovi and Nirvana, then I started getting into the late 70s disco tunes and 80s pop... I like classical music as well. ;)

As for heros... Well, my hero is an under-appreciated guitar player, so that doesn't really help anyone much. Since I'm been learning bass, I've heard all about Wooten, Flea, Bootsy Collins, James Jamerson and Jaco Pastorius and I'm probably more inclined towards Jaco's music. For the time being! There's just so much to learn and so little time to learn it. Hehe.

Thanks for reading. :)

~J

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Welcome, Jess. Thanks for

Welcome, Jess. Thanks for taking the time to introduce yourself. Looks like you've already discovered Patrick's book--which is a great place to start. I'm assuming you enjoyed our interview with him here at bassplaying.com. I don't know much about My Chemical Romance (I think I know one song), but I do like Green Day and have several of their albums. I listen to them quite a lot. I love the idea of keeping an iTunes playlist of the songs you know how to play. Anything that helps you track your progress is a good thing. And I envy anyone who gets in two hours of practice time a day. :)

Congrats on finding your way to the bass guitar and to this site. I hope you stick around. We have some great people here who are always ready to talk about bass and help out anyone with questions.

Wheat

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Thanks for the welcome,

Thanks for the welcome, Wheat. I didn't realise that I wrote so much. *blush*

Patrick's book is great. It's helped me a lot because I really knew NOTHING when I started and there wasn't anyone I could really go to and ask stupid newbie questions. I enjoyed the interview as well - it's really great that you guys were able to talk to him.

Green Day are great, hey? I've got 'Holiday' and 'Wake Me Up When September Ends' down pat and I love playing along with them. My mission is to learn 'No One Knows' before christmas. MCR are my all-time favourite band. At the moment I'm spending a lot of my time listening to their latest album (The Black Parade) and trying to transcribe the bass lines. There's only one song (House of Wolves) that I can't figure out, which is annoying because it makes me want to get up and dance. Check them out if you have time. :)

But, congratulations on BP.com. It is an EXCELLENT resource (I spent hours reading your bassbook and scrolling through every single forums and article). I'll make sure I stick around. :D

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Playing the drums will

Playing the drums will definitly help you to keep time and playing the bass, well . . . that will make you better then just a drummer.

One thing that will help keep you interested in playing, seeing the bands you mentioned, is the fact that those bands have relativly easy bass lines so when ya get board of the repetative exercises and such you can crank yer amp and rock out to a tune you like. One song that may be fun for you is Green Day's "Macy's Day Parade" (I believe that is the title), very simple yet fun bass line with a polka feel, bouncy.

Welcome to AB.

HAZ

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Oh shush... :p Leave

Oh shush... :p Leave drummers alone. They're pretty important in a band (AND it's hard coordinating two legs and two arms whilst headbanging) :p

I'll try out Macy's Day Parade. :) I've been working off the latest album mainly... with the exception of Longview and a few others. :D

Hey all ...

Just joined up - great site you've got running here. Sean Burke hailing from Canada's capital - Ottawa. Been playing for about 25 years and have been holding down the bottom for The Tony D Band for the last 10 years or so. Die-hard Fender and Ampeg guy here although I just picked up a Spector 5 which KILLS!

Anyway - congrats on the site .... hope it takes off!

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Good to meet you Sean.

Good to meet you Sean. Thanks for the best wishes for the site's success. All it takes is folks being willing to share what they know. We'll keep rolling out new features and new ways to encourage information sharing and collaboration. You guys keep contributing. And it'll all be one happy mess of a good time.

What sort of tunes does The Tony D Band play?

Cheers,

wheat

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Blues & some funky stuff.

Blues & some funky stuff. Here's his site: www.tonydband.com

There's also some Youtube clips on my Myspace page at: http://www.myspace.com/canadianbassist
although these are as a three-piece - we're usually guitar, bass, drums and tenor sax.

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Just "friended" you on

Just "friended" you on MySpace. I'll check out the vids....

Wheat

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Bump

Just a bump since it sems we have some new talent on board.
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Hi, I'm Ann. Nice to meet

Hi, I'm Ann. Nice to meet you.

I've been playing bass since August 2006. I love it. I sleep with one of my basses in my bed sometimes so I can play it before I go to bed. I'm serious. I've played in two bands and am currently band-less. Bummer. I'm looking for another. In the meantime, I've been improving my technique and challenging myself daily.

I've been playing various instruments since I was 7 and singing since I was 4 or 5.

My day job is very ambiguous; I'm a Government Contractor and I do computer stuff. I do everything the project managers don't know how to do. Sometimes I even get to do a little graphic design. That makes life fun.

I've got more bio stuff (and a picture) on my ActiveBass.com page. You'll see me rocking out on the Slammer.

My gear consists of:
- Hamer Slammer (the bedtime bass)
- Ibanez Artcore
- Yamaha Aucostic Guitar
- Cello
- Banjo (Soon to be commandeered from my folk's house)
- 30 Watt Hartke practice amp
- 250 Watt Hartke 2x10 Combo
- ...coming soon! 300 Watt 4x10 Eden Combo (I can't wait!)
- ...maybe one day when I have a disposable income! Musicman Bongo (the one I want is $1800)

I look forward to hanging out around here. I'll let some other bass players know about the site.

-Ann-

Hey Ann, welcome to

Hey Ann, welcome to BP.

Jaymie

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Hey, Ann. Good to have you

Hey, Ann. Good to have you here. My wife is a huge fan of the cello and is always encouraging me to take it up sometime. Any advice on that?

Wheat

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Cello!

You should try some cello! It's an interesting instrument. But they can be expensive. The worst thing is getting a really cheap cello. Don't spend anything less than $500 on one. They're loud too, believe it or not, especially in the right environment. In my apartment, I have 10 1/2" ceilings and wooden floors. The whole building can hear it when I play. The building becomes part of the instrument. It's the coolest thing.

The biggest difference between the cello and the bass is that the cello is tuned in 5ths while the bass is tuned in 4ths. Cello tuning is CGDA while bass is EADG. Another difference is that you MUST use your pinky when you play. Additionally, your hand spread is a bit smaller on the cello than on the bass. When you learn, the easiest way to get around on the cello is to use positions. The most common you'll use are 1st and 4th position and occasionally 2nd and 3rd. 1st position starts with your index finger on the first fingered whole step on the string. Let's say we're starting on the D string. 1st position starts with your index finger (1) on E. Your middle finger (2) is on F natural, your ring finger (3) is on F sharp, and your pinky (4) is on G. In 1st position, your 4th finger is always an octave higher than the string lower than the one you're playing on. That's a good way to check your intonation. 2nd position starts at where the 3rd finger was in 1st position: 1 on F sharp, 2 on G, 3 on A flat, and 4 on A. Your 4th finger should be the same note as the next high string. 3rd position starts where your 4th finger was in first position: 1 on G, 2 on A flat, 3 on A, and 4 on B flat. 4th position is 1 on A (the same note as the next high string), 2 on B flat, 3 on B, and 4 on C. It helps if you can read music, but finding the notes is the most important thing.

If you've ever played a fretless, you'll know that the slightest difference in where your fingers are will make a huge difference in your intonation. The same is true on the cello. When I first started playing, I had the 1st and 4th fingers in 1st position marked with tapes on the fingerboard. The 2nd and 3rd fingers fit in the middle. After a while, I took them off. It's all muscle memory.

Bowing is a different story. Keep your wrist flexible and don't grip the bow like you're afraid it's going to get away. I'm not sure if I can describe how to hold the bow here, but I'll try and post it at a later date. Maybe I can find some pictures. Most importantly, don't touch the horsehair. The oils from your hands can damage the hair and kill your tone. When you bow, make sure the bow does not drift up onto the fingerboard or slide down onto the bridge. I like to keep my bow about an inch or so away from the fingerboard because I can get the warmest tone from there. Keep your bow parallel to the ground. The horsehair does not have to be flat against the strings. I like to keep my just slightly angled up as it allows for a little more movement. Don't be afraid to use big strokes.

Get some beginner cello books. The Suzuki method is one of my favorites. All For Strings is one of the books I started with. I'm thinking about teaching cello to kids to get some extra cash. And I like showing people how to play.

-Ann-

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A friend that I do some

A friend that I do some online collabs with rented a cello to decide if he would purchase one. He was actually very good at playing it but man does it over power the bass. Made it a hair difficult to get the final mix just right. Love the sound though.

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The singer in Nancy played

The singer in Nancy played one on some of the recordings. We kept it mostly to intros and outros, so it didn't conflict with what I was doing. There's an example on the song "Alive" on this page of mp3s. I think he does intro, outro, and solo. I'm playing fretless on this one. Live, I'd play the cello parts.

While we're on the non-bass intruments kick, you can hear me playing trumpet (actually, several trumpets multi-tracked) and bass, of course, on "Thursday Night."

Wheat

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Thanks for all the tips!

Thanks for all the tips! I'll keep this post in mind if I ever make the jump.

Wheat

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From miles away.

Hi, I'm Mo

I live in New Zealand ( miles away from most of you )

I'm an old fart who's been playing bass for a long time.

The current regualr gigs I have is with an originals group called "The Void" and I am the Senior Bassist at one on Auckland's bigger churches. I also gig for a couple of other groups as an when needed, plus do various shows, mainly Christian based.

BlindWorks is a service and manufacturing business I own that pays the bills and keeps food on the table, plus I have started a business building high performance BFD horn loaded cabs whci are just the bee's knees for bass. The cab business will become my main stay income within the next three years....unless WWIII erupts.

Mo is a nickname based on my middle name Maurice, which was given me by my sister. My first name is Harley and most people, other than musos, know me here in NZ by that name.

I have a nice bass rig and several nice basses including on e I spec'd and built myself.

Fave groups are Chicago, Beatles, Steely Dan, U2, Bowie, Pink Floyd, and basically anything that doesn't sound crap.

I post on AB and also BFD forums and join in on the cricket and rugby conversations over on TB

Mo

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Mo! So great to hear from

Mo! So great to hear from you. Glad you stopped in to visit. I hope we convince you to become a regular!

Wheat

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Hi Mo. Decided to go

Hi Mo. Decided to go slumming with us did ya. LOL

It's nice to see you pop in. Now we'll all have a couple of places to stay in touch.

Slumming it!!!

No, I don't consider it slumming.

Do the Sally's ever consider doing the rounds with War Cry in their hand in the bars slumming! - Now that's got you worried ! hahahahaha..... : )

I was one of the first members to sign up last year but with all the goings with my sister I had little time for posting on any forum, let alone here.

Just didn't want everyone to think I was a "lurker" or "spy - dare I say it, hence the introduction.

Probably still don't have all that much time to be on every forum I'd like to be, so I doubt I'll be a regular poster here given that BFD Forum ( for my cabs ) has to be a priority business wise.

Mo

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Re: Slumming it!!!

[quote=Maurice Carr]No, I don't consider it slumming.[/quote]

Hope I didn't give the wrong impression Mo. I was kidding with you. Sorry if it didn't come across right.

[quote=Maurice Carr]Do the Sally's ever consider doing the rounds with War Cry in their hand in the bars slumming! - Now that's got you worried ! hahahahaha..... : )[/quote]

Ahhhh, english please. hahaha

[quote=Maurice Carr]I was one of the first members to sign up last year[/quote]

Yeah, I saw that. The welcome was posted before I realized you'd been here longer than I have. Still, there's nothing wrong with an extra welcome now is there? :^}

Re: Slumming it!!!

[quote=Paul Warren]Hope I didn't give the wrong impression Mo. I was kidding with you. Sorry if it didn't come across right.[/quote]

Not at all and yes I knew you were kidding

[quote=Paul Warren]
Do the Sally's ever consider doing the rounds with War Cry in their hand in the bars slumming! - Now that's got you worried ! hahahahaha..... : )

Ahhhh, english please. hahaha [/quote]

That was me kidding back at you. The Sallys = Salvation Army - surely you've seen them come into pubs ( bars ) with their collection boxes and a copy of the "Battle Cry" or "War Cry" magazine? Seeing that "Christians" have come in for a bit of flak here and on every other forum, I though I'd rark you lot up with that comment just for a laugh!

I can take as good as I give so notice -----> the : )

I just hope my presence here, being who I am and having the faith I have, doesn't make people uncomfortable.

[quote=Paul Warren] Still, there's nothing wrong with an extra welcome now is there? :^}
[/quote]

No sir, and your welcome....is....very welcome.

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Quote:I just hope my

[quote]I just hope my presence here, being who I am and having the faith I have, doesn't make people uncomfortable.[/quote]

Your are cool people Mo. Be what ever faith you want, we do not care. You do not push it on others, that is were it can get bother some. As far as who you are, I do not think all the shrinks and meds in the world could fix ya so we will just deal with it. ;^]

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Re: Quote:I just hope my

[quote=HAZZ] As far as who you are, I do not think all the shrinks and meds in the world could fix ya so we will just deal with it. ..[/quote]

Hahahah - that's what my kids and the War Office say!

Good luck dealing with it - I can't at times!

LOL

Mo

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Dealing with you Mo is a

Dealing with you Mo is a cakewalk. Now understanding you after a few pints of stout (in your case TUI), that is a different problem. ;^)

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Re: Slumming it!!!

[quote=Maurice Carr]Not at all and yes I knew you were kidding[/quote]

I thought so but just wanted to be sure.

[quote=Maurice Carr]That was me kidding back at you. The Sallys = Salvation Army - surely you've seen them come into pubs ( bars ) with their collection boxes and a copy of the "Battle Cry" or "War Cry" magazine? Seeing that "Christians" have come in for a bit of flak here and on every other forum, I though I'd rark you lot up with that comment just for a laugh![/quote]

Thanks for the translation Mo. I get you now. We refer to them as the Sally Ann around here so I didn't catch the reference.

[quote=Maurice Carr]I just hope my presence here, being who I am and having the faith I have, doesn't make people uncomfortable.[/quote]

On the contrary, having you here is great. Just keep the cricket talk down a bit, trying to understand that hurts my head. hahahaha

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With a dorky laugh, "'scuse

With a dorky laugh, "'scuse meh whilst I go Mo the lawn." hahaha :^]

ay! tis good to see the Mayor 'round these here parts. arrrrrrr!!

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Hi, my name is Alex Costa and I'm a bass player

Been a bassist for 19 years, 13 of them making a living from bass playing. I started playing because my neighbours had a band and they were going to do a mini-tour of 5 or 6 gigs in 2 states of Brazil. They knew I played some acoustic guitar and mandolin, their bass player couldn't go so they knocked my door holding a bass to me and said: "Grab some clothes, now you play this, it's 100bucks per gig." I was 12 and never stopped since then.
I've played some unusual gigs, like 10-12 hours playing straight on the top of a moving sound truck. Played to 3 million people many times during the "Carnaval of Salvador". I've played every style out there and love them all. Right now playing 10 gigs per week in Florida, where I live.
Gear:
Fodera 5 string
77 Jazz
78 Jazz
Lakland Darryl Jones
Dean 5 string
GK head
Bergantino Cabs
and a lot more.

@lex.

Now if this old goat can only work out how!!

...I'll post a message.

getting a bit old for all this newfangled computrickery stuff.

Nice to see that some old friends pop in here now and then. Good one Wheat, well done.

I'm as busy as heck with lessons coming out of my ears -only one slot available in the entire week, and 3 mornings a week jamming with some old [make that VERY old] band buddies from way back in neolithic days of yore.

For those who remember - Ol' Mamabear says to say Hi.

I'll try to pop in more often, now I see it's not maderated with quite so much passion over here.

A big Hi to all the old pals from AB. Missed you.

That Dave Magaro finally nagged and nagged and nagged and nagged me to pop in. He's worse than Mamabear! Just a different shape, thats all!

dags

P.S. Did I mention that DM naggs?

dags

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Great to see ya back Dags.

Great to see ya back Dags. Stayin' busy I see.

How ya feelin'? Good I hope. You should remind Ol' Mamabear to get you that acoustic bass I suggested to her over at AB.

Just so ya know, we have that little "Shout Box" in the right column if ya do not feel like postin' in the threads.

Dave, if ya see this, buy yer self a beer on me for bein' such a pest to Dags. ;^D

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I think Dave should have a

I think Dave should have a beer on you too. hahahahaha

Naw, I'll spring for one as well.

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No Problem...hehehe! :

No Problem...hehehe!

: )

Dave

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Hi Dags. It's a real

Hi Dags. It's a real pleasure to have you drop in. I'm glad to hear you're doing well and jamming with your buddies. That's great.

Please say hi to Mamabear for me.

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Thanks Dags! Good to hear

Thanks Dags! Good to hear from you, man. And I'm glad Dave prodded you into joining us. I'm happy that you're staying so busy teaching that you don't have time for internet tom-foolery. We should all be so lucky!

We take a light hand with moderation! It makes the air a little easier to breathe, methinks. :)

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Wow! Thanks to all for the lovely welcome

I'll try to pop in now and again, seeing as so many of you are old friends. I have missed you. Now if Dave M. could just nag that old goat Vern to get his ugly butt over here!

I'll drop the old geezer a quick line myself, although I believe he is staying at his daughter's place for a while, so I don't know how often he checks his mail.

Still trying to find my way around this place. Do you have a place for lessons Wheat? or just post answere as asked in forum?

dags

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Hey Dags, at the top of all

Hey Dags, at the top of all the pages on the right you will see a "Create Content" link. Click on it and it will give you a list to choose from, just click on "Lesson" and you will be go to go.

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cerebral flatulence

Ok I had some cerebral flatulence, the link is on the LEFT side, not the right.

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Hi Dags, I;ve been nagging

Hi Dags, I;ve been nagging Vern to drop in as well. I just hope that's not what's keeping him away. hahahaha

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Good to see you again, Dags.

Good to see you again, Dags. Welcome.

Now, get Vern over here!

BoH

Bo


You don't love me, you just love my FINGERSTYLE!
Peavey T40; SX/Squier P-bass; Spector Legend 5
Roland Bass 30 Cube

Helloo I didnt realise there

Helloo

I didnt realise there was an introduction page. Hello My name is Matt. Im from the UK. I have been playing bass for the past 8 years. I have also played the flute for the last 11 years to grade 7 (english music grade standards, dont know if you have them in different countries, 8 is the highest though)
I have 2 bass guitars. A USA Fender jazz bass deluxe. its 2005 model so it has 18v active circuitry. and a JAP Fender jaguar. 2006 model.
My bass amp is currently a Peavey Maxbass 160 goign into either a 2x10 peavery 210tvx or a 15" HH electronics cutom fane loaded cab. Soon i am going to get either a gallen and kruger backline 4x10 or an ashdown 4x10 cab and a peavey tour 700 head so that i can use the 15 cab and the 4x10. Cannot wait for that day so i can make lots and lots of loud sound.
Glad to have found this place.

Matt

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We're glad you found BP as

We're glad you found BP as well. It's great to have new members.

Nice gear you have there.

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Guess I missed this one

Hello, I'm Brian and I'm a bass player. I started 12 1/2 years ago as a temp. I had two guitarists teach me the root notes to twelve songs, three weeks later I was playing a New Years Eve gig with 150 people at the Northern tip of Elsmere Island. The bands name was "Def Vacation" (say it fast), we did Clapton, Hendrix, and The Beatles covers. After I got home I bought a little practice amp and a red MIA Fender Precision. I then took a two year break after I sold my gear for heat. I ended up in Winnipeg and bought a $150.00 cdn bass that had "Stage" stamped on it (now named Ol'Bob and is fretless). After one year of testing every bass I could get my hands on I ended up with a Fender MIJ Marcus Miller Jazz. I saved up and bought an Avatar B410 Neo, an Avatar B115H Neo and a Carvin B800 head. I also purchased a Boss Distortion pedal from B#. Due to there being multiple Brian's I have been dubbed B1 or Buckster or Buck or Bucky or Betty (just kidding about Betty). I am also a very bad bass player, my passion outweighs my talent.

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Yippie Yi-Yay for a newbie...

So, Hello.
My name is Jessie, and since i just joined I figure this should be my first post.
Also, I feel the need to casually drop in that I just started playing bass on a whim.
I am first and foremost a guitarist.
but, I found Wheat's bass book through a google search, and then that lead to this so here I am ^__^
I am serious about learning the bass though, so please don't reject my newness .
and on a last note, it is a pleasure to meet you all.

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Welcome to BP Jessie. I hope

Welcome to BP Jessie. I hope you enjoy playing bass as much as I do, it's a great sounding instrument. This is a good place to get answers to any bass(ic) questions you may have.

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Good to have some new blood

Good to have some new blood here. So who shall start the hazing?

A few of us play a little guitar as well so it can not be that bad of an instrument. ;) One thing you could do, are you familiar with the Gibson EDS-1275? Ya know, the double neck geeter? Well you could get something like this

Oh and if ya need to know what/where the "G" string is just ask Jaymie, he wears one all the time. ;) lol

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Welcome to the site, Vodoo

Welcome to the site, Vodoo Chile! We like new folks here. I think you'll find many people willing to answer whatever questions you have. And I hope the bassbook helps you get started.

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Hello I'm Rick

Wow!!! Great post Wheat and Hazz! This really brought a lot of guys and girls to the forefront. I enjoyed reading the posts from the"newbies". Don't be shy folks, ask questions or make comments all you like. I myself am new to this site although I've been on the planet and been playing bass for a spell.You can check my homepage for my influences(which are more than listed)and my equipment so as to save some typing. Watch out for that Dags guy, though. Hes a bit of a trouble maker when he hooks up with that Magaro character !! LOL ! I certainly am kidding, I have nothing but the utmost respect for both those gentlemen. Good to hear you, Dags!!! Welcome aboard everyone !

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Afternoon All

Hey all,
New here, my name is Sim I'm from the UK and I've been playing Bass for around 8 years (after getting anoyed by the Classical toffs who told me "you cant play you're cello like that", so I didn't I took up the Bass and play it "like that", still enjoy cello though)
Not sure where I came across this site but really like the idea of BassIAB, after doing loads of jazz at uni I've just moved house and now only play at church which is great fun (1500 people go each week, and its fun and funky music) but just miss playing in big band and jazz quartets. So hopely this BassIAB will re-inspire my bass practicing...which has been decling over that last few months.
Anyway, can't wait to get involved in that stuff and hear some constructive critisism...its the only way to get better!! (And better than paying a teacher to do it!).
As I said I love jazz and funky stuff and play a Warwick Streamer LX 6 Fretless through a LMII and MarkBass Traveller 151p.
Thats Me!! (I'm also on Talkbass but they dont have a BassIAB thing going on)

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A warm welcome to Sim

Welcome to BP. There are a small group of regulars that post and Dave would be the only one to watch out for, he is still stuck in the '70's ;')

Seems you have some great gear there as well. I really like the necks on the Warwicks.

If and when ya get a chance jump on into the BassIAB mix. Lookinf forward to hearing some of yer chops.

Hazz

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Hi! Welcome to BP. I see

Hi! Welcome to BP. I see you're from the UK. It's nice to have some more UK members. Sort of keep those Aussies under control. hahahahaha

I hope you can get involved with BassIAB. It's a good thing to hear how different people play the same song. I've learned a lot from it. There is time to get a recording up for the current BassIAB. If you can get a track recorded we can help you by posting it or even hosting it if necessary. Send a private message to Hazz, Wheat or me if you need help.

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Cheers for the welcome. Yeah

Cheers for the welcome.
Yeah I love my Warwick it was a chance ebay bargain at less than half price! I used to do quite a lot of home recording (on a hobby level only) so look forward to getting back into it. I'll try to get something done within a week to get on the last one, never done anything like this before though so dont know how it will turn out! Will need some help to host it though!

Sim

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No problem. I'll message my

No problem. I'll message my e-mail address to you and you can e-mail your mix as an attachment. I'll post it for you and link it up on the BassIAB site.

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Welcome to the site, Sim.

Welcome to the site, Sim. We're glad to have you and hope you enjoy it and stick around. Jump in on that BassIAB project. It's a lot of fun. And Paul will just keep hassling you if you don't. :)

Wheat

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I don't hassle, I

I don't hassle, I persuade.....

:^)

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Welcome

Welcome to the site Sim. This is the best site to sit back and learn. Cheers

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hello all i am jeffrey roden

glad to have found the site. i have been playing the bass for almost forty years and have been playing the same 1961 fender bass since 1970. have owned many others always play this one. i have 5 cds of music for solo bass out, of which four are on my own label the big tree music and the latest which has been released by the new music / new classical label new albion records. i feel very happy to have gotten music for solo electric bass included on a label like this. if you look at the roster of composers and artists it is very cool for the bass. there is lot of information about my work on my website www.thebigtreemusic.com and the new albion site http://www.newalbion.com. my work is not about how many notes i can play or how much gear i have accumulated but about the beauty of the bass and it's abilities as a solo instrument delivering thematic material. anyhow, nice to meet you all and i look forward to posting and reading here.
best

jeffrey roden

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Welcome to the site,

Welcome to the site, Jeffrey. It's great to have you as a member here. I discovered your music just a few months ago and really enjoy it. I look forward to hearing what you have to say about bass as a solo instrument. Thanks for joining us.

Wheat

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Welcome!

Welcome to the nicest site on the web. Have fun!

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Welcome to BP Jeffrey.

Welcome to BP Jeffrey.

ok well better late than never...

Hello my name is Greg and i am a Bassmaniac. I love the bass and anything bass related.

I have been playing bass for (damn here i go showing my age) 68 years. i am entirely self taught (which probably explains why i ain't that good.....lol)
I tend to be a bit of a gear head, which must be why currently own 7 basses and 4 guitars (yes i said guitars....been playing those for about 38 years). I played in a few bands over the years (some in clubs and some never left the garage)
In 1985 i had a bad accident at work that caused some severe damage to my left hand ( i am right handed) I stopped playing for a bit until a cousin who was a gifted musician and a great friend kept pushing me to pay again ( he knew how much i loved music). so i started playing again and still try t do vest i can even tho my movement in my left hand fingers is limited.

Recently a friend from work got me involved in an open jam he was having at his home every satruday night. now i am hooked and am pretty much co-sponsor of the jam. It has been some of the most fun i have EVER had playing music and i highly recommend it to everyone.

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Welcome, Greg! It's good to

Welcome, Greg! It's good to have you around.

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Northernbuck's picture

Hi!

Welcome to the site Greg.

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Hi Greg. Good to see you

Hi Greg. Good to see you here. So you finally found us eh? : )

Hello everyone

Hey guys, I just came over to see what was hap'nin' over here. I see a lot of familiar names. It's nice to post in a place where the creator is a familiar name as well.

So just a shout out to my fellow bottom keepers and see ya'll 'round!

welcome

hey barney welcome and yeah they be lots of familiar names around here.....

greg

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I see I see!

I like it here! A more unplugged small venue feel!

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Good seein' ya here BB. You

Good seein' ya here BB. You trouble makers are always more then welcome. ;)

Hazz

p.s. On a side note, there is a shout box just in case some of you "newer" fellas did not see it. You can shout at each other in real time. Haha

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Sorry.........

.........for taking so long to reply! I just did a shout to all you who replied to me here. Thanks, and I'll be reading you all often!

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Hey Barney! I know.... it

Hey Barney! I know.... it takes some getting used to having the creator of the site here all the time. I guess he cares what happens here. Nice to have you aboard!

Dave

Oh yeah!

Thanks man! I'm just seein' all these replies tonite! Took me awhile, I forget where and when I post, still gettin' used to the get around here!

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Hi Barney. Nice to see you

Hi Barney. Nice to see you here. I hope you can drop in often.

I do...

...drop in often, I'm just a bit inexperienced with the transport around until I get used to it. Sometimes it's a time crunch to look around and remember where and when I post so I take a few cursory glances and get called away. I'm always pokin' around!

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Hello

Why, hello Barn!

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Just got around...

...to seeing all of the replies. Nice to read you here!

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Great to have you here,

Great to have you here, Barney. I've always enjoyed your posts and I hope to see you around here often.

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Wow

I just now read these responses! I wish that I could be directed to replies to my posts directly when I log in, cause as much as I want to I don't spend a lot of time surfing thru all the content. But thank you, I like it here, it feels real grass rootsie, and that's pretty cool. Like going from a class of hundreds to a class of 10. I'll be around!

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Yeah, we don't have a very

Yeah, we don't have a very convenient way to track post responses. I hope that the new version of Drupal--when I finally get around to upgrading--will have that feature or something like it. Most people just hit the recent pots link and go from there. You can also subscribe to threads and there are RSS feeds for just about everything. But all of these are still clunkier than they could be.

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Yes, I am a noob, but not to bass playing!

Hello, my name is Dylan Palme. I've 17 years old, and I've been playing bass for the past 8 years. I'm from Maine, there's not too much to do where I live, so I (bass)icaly play my bass all day.

Paul Warren's picture

Welcome to BP Dylan. It's

Welcome to BP Dylan. It's nice to have you here. I see you started quite young. Has that really helped with your ability? Mainstream thinking says it does. I'm curious about your opinion.

I don't think it has.

When I started, I was listening to a lot of punk music, simple stuff. 3 or 4 notes per song. I did that for about 4 years. Than I started listening to more "sophisticated" music and that helped bring out my abilities. So I really don't think it helps if you start young. But it doesn't hurt of course.

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Welcome to the site,

Welcome to the site, Dylan.

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Hazz's picture

Welcome to the nut house

Welcome to the nut house Dylan. Hope you enjoy yer stay.

Hazz

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Hello, I'm new

Hello I'm Nick from the U.K.
I began playing bass about 15 years ago and have been in a few bands.I use an old Trace Elliot amp and have a bass made by a guy called Nick Marchant. I'm a metal and rock player but I like all kinds of music.
I first felt an attraction for the bass guitar at about 10 years old when I heard "Reach out" on the T.V.It took me another 10 years to actually get started myself, but I've always been "into" bass. Anyway I won,t rant on anymore,just to say hello and I'm pleased to meet everyone!

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Hi Nick. Welcome to BP.

Hi Nick. Welcome to BP.

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No worries 'bout rantin'

No worries 'bout rantin' bro. If ever a gent by the name Dags logs on . . . well, his post can get long winded, informative, but long winded.

Welcome Nick

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Welcome, Nick Wheat

Welcome, Nick

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Thanks....

...for the welcome guys.I recognise alot of names here from AB and myspace, so I know I'm in with a good crowd here.I don't get to log on every day, so apologise in advance for any delays in my responses.
Nick.

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Hello my name is Golem and I'm a Bassaholic

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Hello my name is Golem and I'm a Bassaholic. I played my first note about 10 yrs ago and it's been a long spiral downward ever since.

I have been in and out of various 12-Tone Programs, but nothing really disciplined. My main coping mechanism is to simply take it one note at a time.

In a perfect world, at the end of the day, tomorrow never comes.

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Welcome to BP Golem. I think

Welcome to BP Golem. I think I need one of those 12 tone programs too. It'd give me about 4 extra tones to work with. hahaha

wheat's picture

Welcome aboard, Golem. We

Welcome aboard, Golem. We could use a little wit around here. :)

I replied to your other post (over in the Duff McKagan thread).

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Hazz's picture

Welcome aboard G.

Welcome aboard G.

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Another noob

Hi folks, I can't be one of those shy newbies lurking about, so here's a few words about myself. My name is Bryan and I live in sunny southern California in Irvine. After seven years in the magazine world, I left for a PR company and discovered the wonderful world of freetime. Since I have wanted to learn the bass for several years - I plunked down the cash in May I for a Johnson JJ-800 (I think that's the model; it's a Fender Jazz replica) and set out to learn to play it.
I'm learning on my own; I started off with the Teach Yourself VISUALLY Bass Guitar book and got the basic mechanics down a few chords. Now I'm into a few other books with CDs, ActiveBass and this forum and working on reading the music and memorizing the frets.
No plans to start a band yet. My wife is also learning the guitar so we have our living room jam sessions (sort of) and most important, have fun learning the two instruments together. Both of us play for fun now, but I do want to get good enough to justify the new bass she's hinted I'll get for my 40th b-day next Feb. And figure out which Fender I really want...

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I dub thee Db

I dub thee Db

Welcome, not a lot of SoCal'ers here.

Seeing you are in Irvine you should check out San Diego Bass Alliance

Also, if you are still trying to learn how to read, a few very good books are

Bass Fretboard Basics

Music Reading for Bass

I would say purchase it through that site or see if Wheat has it in his shop here. also Bass Guitar for Dummies is another good one and a lot of players here and over at AB have it.

Cheers
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Yeah, we got em! Music

Yeah, we got em!

Music Reading for Bass

Bass Fretboard Basics

And, last, but certainly not least:

Bass Guitar for Dummies

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N00b2N00b

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Weclome, from N00b2N00b. Only been here one whole day myself, seems quite decent digs.

I must warn you that you can never part with a 40th Bday giftee bass from wifey. It need not always be your 1st call ax, and reasonable mods and upgrades are generally OK, but it's yours 4ever. Frinstintz, don't make it your *first* 5-string. You wouldn't yet know whether you're allergic to 5-strings [a common allergy], and even 5-string devotees still play the 4-string where appropriate.

Fender is a good choice cuz it's the most readily modded and upgraded platform around, important for an ax that's more permanent than your eye color. Similarly, you want chrome hardware, not black or gold. Chrome is so overwhelmingly commonplace that the other colors are a PITA to find if you're ever upgrading any hardware.

A clear or brownish burst finish, or black, white, or silver, is safer than an eyecatching hue like candy apple red, cuz you might keep it on a stand or wallhanger in the den or livingroom. Kapische ? Goot.

IOW, plan ahead. There are different priorities involved here, not as simple as going out with a lunch bag full of C-notes to buy your own bass, answerable to no one else later if your tastes change. You been warned :-0

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thanks for recommendations.

thanks for recommendations. I'm not lacking in material, just haven't got my brain to translate those notes into fingers on frets fully. Yet. I like having the tab below, but find myself using too much - so working on weaning from that crutch too.
But bottom line - having fun :)

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Lots of nice Fenders out

Lots of nice Fenders out there. Play all you can and go for the one you fall in love with, then look at the price. Sometimes, you'll be surprised. Definitely try out one of those Marcus Miller Jazz Basses. Normally, I shy away from the signature models, figuring you're just paying a premium for the name. But I love every one of those I play. They make it in a 4- and a 5-string version (here's MM with the 5er). I've only played the four. Here's Fender's page for it.

Somebody here has one. Northernbuck?

[update: fixed my link]

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Re: Lots of nice Fenders out

[quote=wheat] ....... Definitely try out one of those Marcus Miller Jazz Basses. .......

Somebody here has one. Northernbuck?

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There was one circulating amongst friends in my circle. Never owned it myself. I play it often enuf. It usually changed hands due to the finances of its various owners. Everyone who owned it loved it, and would sometimes borrow it back from its later owners.

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my Fender list...so far

That's my plan - keep sampling the variety until one "speaks" to me. So far my list has narrowed to Standard Active Jazz, Geddy Lee Signature (easy neck, but heavy body) and maybe a P-Bass. So yeah, I'm not sure. But I'll have to try the MM 4-stringer - now worries guys, I'm not ready to take the extra string leap yet. My fingers have enough challenge negotiating 4.

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Bonjour, my name's PaulPosition and I'm trying hard to play bass

Hello, all.

Well, first thing first, my real name's Alex Fournelle. Yeah, sounds nothing like PaulWhatever ; it just so happens I'm a sucker for cheap puns and am, among other things, a racing car fan (get it? Pole Position?)... I'm french canadian from Montreal, which would explain some strange choice of words from time to time, hope you'll bear with me.

Okay, so a bit about me and my playing. I'm a hobbyist first and foremost. A born-again one at that. To expand on that, let's say I started thumping the fat strings about 17 years ago for fun. No formal training ever, and not much of an interest in learning about musicianship then. Trying, in all the wrong ways, to play like Les, Geddy or Flea. Ended up throwing puke-tastic walls of noise when playing alone, or (when I felt like actually doing *music*) jamming some Pink Floyd or such with my younger brothers and sister.

But lack of a band, and other interests, had the better of my patience. I still picked the bass up every next month, but never expanded my small repertoire, always playing the same few riffs. -- Actually, the repertoire got smaller, as I smoked my memory away. But I'll NOT expand on that.

When my amp went the way of the dodo a few years ago, I about completely stopped playing. I'm unemployed (back pain problems), so forking up for a new one was out of my league. I would still pick the 4-stringed-demon from time to time, when it'd be calling my name ("plaaaaay me! plaaaay me!") but when the only way to amplify its signal is to push it against a wooden table and go for the tuning-fork effect, well let's just say it not the most inspiring thing.

Anyway, this xmas, I received a few dollars from my parents. Not much, like two hundreds, but once half of that was sent to my VISA friends to finish paying up that old debt of mine, I was faced with finding a use for the rest. Weed was quickly dismissed : not permanent enough. Not at all. But that lightsnake usb thing I'd been eyeing for most of a year sounded like a great idea. If I didn't jam anyway, my desktop speakers would be better than nothing. So off to the store I went. But no lightsnake to be found. Instead, I got myself the cheapest of the line6 Toneport contraptions, the GX one.

So ran back home, plugged it in, dusted the ol' bass and started playing. Ohhh the fun! Ohhh the hurt fingers! :o Ohhh, the crappy sounding strings. I guess three years old is too much! So whenever the store opens up after holidays, I'll buy myself a new set of strings and try to set my bass up, following the GREAT guide I found on this site. I may skip the trussrod thing, neck seems straight enough, but I'll know when I actually have it stringed and the action somewhat adjusted.

Okay, so there I am. Been thumping those strings on and off for half of my life, which would make me 34 if my maths are right. But I'm only just starting to LEARN now. While, all those years ago, I wanted to play like Claypool, now I want to play like Bach. (what? he didn't play bass? left-hand Bach then.). It's an all new thing for me. Understanding chords, progressions, keys... and translating back-and-forth from do, re, mi to C, D, A... Seems difficult, but my talented lil' brother tells me : won't be difficult for long. Good enough, then. And I'm sure Wheat's book will help a lot. From what I have read of it, it sounds like no-nonsense. Just what I need.

Projects for next year include, in no particular order, learning my ways around the fretboard, repairing/adjusting that ol' cheap'o bass of mine, getting to know you guys and, maybe, kill your ears by attempting to put a bassline to those bassInABox .mp3. But that last one will have to wait a bit I guess.

Well, I just wrote a freakin' novel, sorry.

Oh, my gear... Pretty simple, minimalist : an old (Korean made so cheap) Ibanez SR 500 and a Toneport GX usb unit. That's that, but it will do, oh yes! it will do...

...for the time being.
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nice to meet ya alex

and welcome to our great little community. i think you will find the folks here are quite helpful. hope you enjoy it here as much as i do.

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Welcome to BP Alex. Your

Welcome to BP Alex. Your story somewhat parallels mine. I've been trying to play since 1978 or so. I'd start getting a bit better and life would up and get in the way. I decided to REALLY learn around 3 years ago. I'm finally making some progress, I still suck mind you, but I am a little better now. So stick with it, it can be done, I'm almost proof of that. hahahaha

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Bonjour, Alex!

I enjoyed your novelistic introduction. It's nice to get to know new people here. And I think you'll enjoy getting to know the regulars. There are a lot of great folks here, and the tone is very high on encouragement and assistance and low on attitude.

It's cool, too, that you're interested in the BassIAB project and that you're a TonePort user. There are several people on the site who use TonePort and other Line6 gear. I have a TonePort UX2 that I love and I use it for everything (from practice to recording). The only thing I don't use it for is playing live. But I haven't been playing live much these days (and probably won't anytime soon). I'm glad you dig your GX. I'm surprised how much I love GearBox. When I bought my UX2, I really just needed a USB 2 interface. I didn't realize how much fun I was going to have with the modeling software.

Anyway, thanks for joining up. I look forward to talking more with you in the forums. And I hope we can all help you with your renewed interest in bass.

Sincerely,

Wheat

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PaulPosition's picture

Well, thanks...

... for the warm tone of those welcoming messages.

I'll be sure to browse the forums quite regularly, and am already enjoying my stay. I'll start posting unbelievably 'bassics' questions real soon :)

Paul - Pah!, judging from your BassIAB entries, you're a much better player than you imply. When I play like Paul Warren, I'll be a happy dude. :D

Wheat - Yeah, I do love the toneport thing. And since I don't own any more instruments, the one input of the gx is good enough for me. I do lament the fact it doesn't play midi (so I have to link it through my computer's soundcard if I want to play with cheap, freeware drumkit thingies) and that the customtones thing is exclusively guitar (what a bad interface they have..) but for the rest, dang, it's great fun for low bucks. -- And reading your book, I'm definitely loving it. I'll most certainly try to paypal a lil' something back when I get a break with money (right now balance is fubar, way too much output for near-0 input). -- Thanks..

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I'm glad you're enjoying the

I'm glad you're enjoying the BassBook. I cranked open my development copy of it a few days back (the framework for an eventual print edition that may or may not ever happen), and that made me want to work on it some more. Actually, I've planned a few lessons that I want to finish up and post here at BP instead, as I can't wrap my mind around the BassBook anymore. :)

No worries about the money. But if your fubar situation ever resolves in your favor, I take hosting donations. We had sort of a fall fund drive a few months back and my good friends here at BP subsidized just under half of the hosting costs for BP though August of 2008 (thank you, thank you!)! That certainly made my month, quarter, whatever. :)

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Paul Warren's picture

Thanks...

[quote=PaulPosition]Paul - Pah!, judging from your BassIAB entries, you're a much better player than you imply. When I play like Paul Warren, I'll be a happy dude. :D[/quote]

Thanks for the kind words. If only I could believe them. : )

On a serious note, the reason I don't feel like much of a player is because I can't play at all, not even one bloody note, without accompaniment. I hear people all the time who walk into a music store and shred away, slapping, tapping and popping, like it's the most natural thing in the world. Some of these guys and gals have only been playing a year or two. It makes me sick. Especially when they offer me a bass and say 'let's hear you play'. Grrrrrrrr

Still, I love playing and I'm not giving up no matter how long it takes.

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Go figure...

Heh, superkid who picks up a bass and goes slappin' like all hell broke loose *usually* just learnt that lick by heart. I mean, even I can learn something flashy (but obscure, say, Mr. Bungle's Dead Goon so I don't sound like I'm playing the bass equivalence of what Stairway to Heaven is to guitar shops) and amaze grandma'...

Playing with accompaniment, however, requires musical know-how, understanding... though, tough. :D
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Paul Warren's picture

Well you may be right...

Well you may be right but I still wish I could sound like a bass player without accompaniment. Maybe I should learn Dead Goon. hahaha

BTW, I love the 'Schrödinger's Cat' reference.

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Playing with yourself :)

[quote=Paul Warren]
On a serious note, the reason I don't feel like much of a player is because I can't play at all, not even one bloody note, without accompaniment.
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I can help you with this. I've run into it before. I played trumpet in HS and a friend several years back bought a trumpet and asked me for a lesson. I told him I didn't know much on the trumpet, but I'd show him a few things. So I showed him a simple pentatonic scale, good for making up blues licks to your heart's content. I showed him the scale in the usual fasion: up and then back down. But then he asked me, "so what do I do with it? I don't just play it up and down, do I?"

And the answer, as you know, is of course not. You pick out little patterns that sound good to your ear. You leave the tonic (a.k.a. the root) and you return to the tonic. You create tension and then release it. A lot of licks work their way up to the fifth and then quickly resolve to the one. After some time, you develop a certain phrases on a particular scale because they sound good to you and work in a variety of musical situations.

The key to playing w/o accompanyment is to internalize a chord progression and a tempo. The easiest way to start this out is to pick a really simple progression. A I-IV is good (over and over), so is a II-V-I or a I-IV-V. Start off with just playing the roots for a set number of bars on each chord. Do it with a metronome. Then start deviating from the roots--but still hitting the root on the "one" of each chord change. Eventually, try doing it w/o the metronome. You'll eventually internalize the pulse and the changes.

That, really, honestly, is all there is to it. Everything beyond that is just a complication or permutation of the same basic idea. The hard part, at first, is internalizing those changes. I'm lazy in that I don't varry enough from those three basic changes, because it's easier to play against what I know than to spend the time internalizing new things. But that's all it takes.

Wheat

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That seems to be my problem...

[quote=wheat]The key to playing w/o accompanyment is to internalize a chord progression and a tempo.[/quote]

That seems to be my problem, I don't seem to be able to internalize a progression and tempo. When I play with accompaniment, say just a drum track, I get my tempo from the drums (obviously) but I also get some musical ideas from the drummers style. If I play to just a click track I easily pick up the tempo but I find it MUCH harder to come up with any kind of musical ideas. Once in a while something comes to me but most of the time I'm blank.

Have you ever heard a cool riff on TV? You know, a simple but really great bass line in a jingle or something. I hear these a lot and I say to myself 'That's a great line. Just three notes but it sounds great. I can do that'. So I hurry off to grab my bass and by the time I'm plugged in I can't remember the riff.

I'm thinking I've got a mental handicap when it comes to music. Alright, many of you are saying I've got a mental handicap period and I'm not about to argue. hahahaha

I will keep at it and I'm going to try some of the ideas you outlined above Wheat. Especially the idea of tuning off the click track after working up a line. You can imagine how frustrating this can get though.

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I can imagine that it would

I can imagine that it would be frustrating! A drumbeat (or any other musical element) will alter my playing as well, compared to playing with a click (real or internalized). I tend to play more when it's just me. I'll play fewer notes when I'm playing along with other instruments.

I have my own share of mental tics, so I won't rule out that the way your brain processes these things is different and ads to the difficulty. But I would hope that it's something you can overcome via practice and training. Even if you can't overcome it, you play very nice lines on all the BassIAB stuff. None of us are good at every aspect of bass playing. Perhaps, for you, ensembles are the only musical context where things make sense.

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I never introduced myself,

I never introduced myself, so I guess this is a good time.

My name is Rick and I've only been playing bass for a couple of years. I'm converted from being a guitar player and when I started playing bass in a band, I loved it. I've always been a gear junkie and it shows with what I've spent to get my equipment to where it is today. I play mainly metal music, but also dabble a lot in ambient. I play in a full time touring metal band.

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Welcome, Rick! Glad to have

Welcome, Rick! Glad to have you here. I'm also a fan of ambient, and I grew up on metal (still a huge Sabbath and Maiden fan).

Wheat

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Sacred System, Bill Laswell Live in germany

Jimi66 Speaking of Ambient, Im a huge Laswell fan and i have a soundboard from this show in Germany. I know this is not the place to talk about reviews but i was rolling on the floor when i first listened to this. It's remarkable. if you cant find it let me know, it's a must hear.

Jimi

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welcome rick

hope your time here is enjoyable and informative....

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...and another one reporting in

Hi you fine folks of bassplaying.com!

A quick presentation for my part it is then. So, I'm HP (short for Harri-Pekka, which happens to be my given name), a bass owner of some 7-8 years. I started playing after turning 20 with a bass, dabbled a bit with guitar and got back to bass. My band history is short, comprises of two bands and a couple of on/off jam-type thingies. Most of the songs I've been performing live have been in the pop-rock vein but now I'm starting to develop an interest into other things. Hence, I need to improve my playing.

Back in the days (of not so long ago) when I started, I found Wheat's Bassbook a great asset (so thank you!) and now I'm sort of kind of returning to it and found the BassIAB interesting - haven't tried it yet though.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents...
HarrieR

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Welcome to BP Harri.

Welcome to BP Harri.

welcome

howdy HP and welcome to our little hideout for bottom dwellers....there is a good bunch of folks around here and all quite helpful and friendly....

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Warm thanks!

...of your welcoming words. It seems to be great community!

HarrieR

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Hello All, AniZ from Myrath !!

Hello all My Name Is AniZ.J BaSs Player from Myrath , Progressive metal Band From Tunisia
And Happy to be here !!
listen to Myrath And My Bass Playing
see ya
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Paul Warren's picture

Welcome to BP. I hope you

Welcome to BP. I hope you find it informative and fun.

Hello.

Hello, I'm Burnside (Andrew) and I play the bass guitar. It all started when my older brother took me to see fIREHOSE at the tender age of fourteen. There was this lumberjack looking guy hanging out in the crowd who, when it came time for fIREHOSE to take the stage, hoped over the barrier and grabbed an weird angular looking bass (A Gibson Thunderbird). He then destroyed the club with some fat, nasty bass playing and I knew that was what I had to do too. I wrangled my first Peavey starter bass a few months later and I haven't looked back.

I played my way through high-school and early college years with a slew of heavy, loud punk bands that never seemed to able to pull our sound together enough to do more then rock house parties and get shutdown by the local police. Oddly, I also ended up studying jazz for a time in a high-school music vocational program.

None of the projects I worked on seemed to go anywhere aside from a few demos played on college radio stations, but I love performing anyway. I had to take a break for a few years due to some real life interference in my schedule, but I'm off the wagon again and steadily rebuilding my chops. Currently I'm working with a buddy of mine on a funk/blues outing that, knowing the two of us, will probably end up thrashing more then it should.

So hello everyone!

Hazz's picture

Welcome to

Welcome to BP.

Hazz

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RaginRog's picture

Why

Why does it have to be your swamp???

Whats up Haz!

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welcome

to BP and don't worry bout the funk/blues thing thrashing more that *it should* that way ti will be something new and fresh and not like every other game in town....gotta always remember....music is for FUNNNNNNN

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
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*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Welcome to BP.

Welcome to BP.

wheat's picture

You sound like my kinda guy,

You sound like my kinda guy, Burnside! I've seen fIREHOSE two or three times and met Mike Watt once before a performance. Great band! Great bassist! Welcome to the site. I look forward to chatting with you in the forums.

Wheat

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Thanks y'all. It's good to

Thanks y'all. It's good to be here.

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My Name is Roger...But you can call me Rog

Wow...two years and I'm finally posting this.

Born in NY in the year 1971. Went to Catholic Schools all my life, and I'm a die hard Mets fan! I went to college for one year, then the Army for 2 years and 17 weeks. When I got out I moved to Maryland, worked for GM for 11 years as an Assembler and 6 as a union rep. My plant closed in 2005, so I took a severance buy-out, and finally got my Bachelors. I worked a shitty job for a year, and recently landed a dream job for a Federal Agency as a labor relations rep. Somewhere in between I got married and divorced TWICE.

I played bass for a couple of years from 91-93, and didn't pick it back up until 2003. I'm currently in a modern rock band....and oh yes....I change basses like A clean person changes their underwear! lol

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Northernbuck's picture

Gee

Welcome to the site Rog. Nice to see a newb around. So you just started playing, eh? How's your first bass working ou..................... WAIT A SECOND! You had me going there you, you fooler you. Can I have your next throw away bass? lol

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Whats up Brian

LOL....I've actually been a member for a while, but forgot about the link I had saved in my "favorites".

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Paul Warren's picture

Nice to see you drop in

Nice to see you drop in Roger.

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Hey Paul

Paul...if you get this....perhaps PM my on the mother site. How do you check responses to one's posts on this site??

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So it goes.

Well hello I'm Andy and i've been playing bass for five years now. As i read about all of you guys i'm really excited about joining this site. As a 15 year old I understand that I am unexperienced, and still have a lot of stuff to learn. I've been playing with my current band for about a year, we have made an EP and doing shows around Des Moines for the past 6 months. Knowledge wise i can read tabs and bass clef, i'm still working on theory i know about triads which i use to solo constantly. i also know a quite a bit about major but still working on minors and things like that. I'm also very eager to learn so if you have something cool just drop me a line thanks.

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welcome andy....

and i am sure you will find that here we believe all of us still have a lot to learn........which is why we all help each other.....

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

RaginRog's picture

geniuses

[quote=GRhodus]and i am sure you will find that here we believe all of us still have a lot to learn........which is why we all help each other.....quote]

Greg- We're are musical geniuses....don't sell yourself short! lol

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Paul Warren's picture

Welcome to BP Andy. We all

Welcome to BP Andy.

We all still have lots to learn. One thing about playing bass is I don't think we can ever say we have no room left to improve. Please feel free to post any questions you may have. There's likely someone here who'll know the answer.

i think ....

no matter what instrument you play you always have room to improve........best thing is to ALWAYS be a student....you can learn stuff even from someone with less experience than yourself.

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

Hi my name is Darrell A.

Hi my name is Darrell A. Cale a.k.a Rev. Token. I have been playing bass for 9+ years now. I play mostly rock and metal, although I have also played Modern Christian music and am currenly expanding into Blues. My bass was my first love, and is where my free time goes. My main goals at the moment are: 1. to expand my playing in the Blues genere 2. to learn to read music 3. to start learning theory.

Any advice, tips, tricks, or general info is always appreciated, and I am always willing to share if possible.

welcome Darrell

i think you will find a very sharing and informative bunch here who are both helpful and genuinely friendly group...

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Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Welcome to the site,

Welcome to the site, Rev.

Wheat

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Welcome to BP rev.

Welcome to BP rev.

Hazz's picture

I am not around much these

I am not around much these days but welcome non the less.

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Hello, I'm David aka FatDaddy(hahaha)

Hey my name is David and I live in NC. I am a new bass player. Just joined up with some guys at work to form a band playing primarily 70's and 80's classic rock. Must be crazy doing this so soon into my bass playing career but what the hey. I am loving the bass and already have a musical background. Should be able to learn the thump-thumps quickly and the finer, slicker stuff as I go along. Glad to have found this site and hope to get some good tips.I have a Ibanez GSR190 and a Hartke HS120 amp. I know the bass was originally part of a starter pack somewhere back but it sounds good and I can grow into something else from here. Thanks for listening, David

welcome

David and i am sure you find a great bunch of guys here all willing to help you on your path and you can teach us a few things as we go also. just remember to have fun and enjoy your time playing and don't get to strung out on trying to do play everything by the book.

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

dcurtis's picture

Thanks Greg....I am already

Thanks Greg....I am already finding that the way of the bass is different and that you do what you have to to get the sound. Dont mean to sound all Jedi on you but your right about not getting too hung up on by the book tecniques. But, they are a good starting point for someone like me with noone too show me and a place to go from. Again thanks...

well ya know.....

after 40 years of bass playing i still don't know the buy the book stuff....well i have picked up some of the theory i just use my ears and and let the music drive me...

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

Hey Gang, Looks like I'm the

Hey Gang,
Looks like I'm the new kid on the block for a while. Happy to be here, thanks for having me.

wheat's picture

You bet, Richard! Thanks

You bet, Richard! Thanks for signing up. I hope you enjoy the site.

Wheat

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TK's picture

New and Posting

Hi! My name is Tom and I'm a new bass player, or at least trying to be anyways :) Unlike many here, I've been playing a total sum of about 2 months (just got my first bass back in October).

Not much to say other than I live in Sunny (most of the time) Florida and I'm having a blast learning to play.

Paul Warren's picture

Hi Tom. Welcome to BP. I

Hi Tom. Welcome to BP. I think you'll like it here. There's lots of useful info to help you learn.

dcurtis's picture

Hi Tom...I am new to bass

Hi Tom...I am new to bass playing also. This is a great place to be ....these guys give great advice, and have good articles also. Keep it low buddy, David

PVTele's picture

Hello, I'm Mike and...

I've been playing bass (and lead too, but we won't mention that again...) for a l-o-n-g time. I play in various church bands, and odd pub blues gigs, but my main music, I suppose, is string ambient, under the name Eremos. Oh, and I'm a Franciscan Tertiary...

I've had all sorts of instruments over the years, but my current love is an Indie IB604N in oiled swamp ash. Lovely sound, and very nice to play. A rather un-Fenderish bass, and active, which is odd for me. An exception to prove a rule?

welcome mike

to the best dang bass site on the web.....

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

Hazz's picture

Welcome to

Welcome to BP.

Hazz

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Paul Warren's picture

Welcome to BP.

Welcome to BP.

wheat's picture

Welcome to the site, Mike.

Welcome to the site, Mike. Good to have you here.

Wheat

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jimi66's picture

jimi Flessas, portland ore

Jimi66 Greetings fellow bass brothers, im from portland and am currently raising 4 kids on my own, bass playing is like xanadu, when im not pullin a little one off of me. so far your site is great.

Jimi

Jimi66

howdy

and welcome to the site....

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Greg
Http://www.myspace.com/kybassmaniac
Http://www.youtube.com/kybassmaniac

*and it harm none,do what thou will*

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Greg
http://www.youtube.com/user/BroknDreamsBand
Http://www.facebook.com/brokendreamsband
http://www.reverbnation.com/brokendreamsband
*and it harm none,do what thou will*

Paul Warren's picture

Welcome to the site Jimi. I

Welcome to the site Jimi. I hope you enjoy it.

wheat's picture

Thanks, Jimi. It's good to

Thanks, Jimi. It's good to have you here. From the profile pic, looks like you're a Fender man, which is fine by me. :)

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Hello, I'm Boom Daddy and I'm a bass player...

Hi, I'm a bass player and proud of it. So what if the guitar player gets all the girls, my guitar is bigger than his. So what if the drummer gets to sit down through the whole gig, I can play lower than him. So what if the keyboard can play lower than me, he can't slap. "Never apologize for playing too loud," that's my motto!

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